enggr
03-17 03:56 AM
Friends,
My I-140 got denied after the RFE response. In response to the RFE in September my lawyer responded to the RFE in November and the result came early this month (march 2008).
In the RFE response in last November my lawyer told USCIS that the category was marked wrong as EB2 where the case should be actually under EB3.
USCIS denied the application saying that application cannot be approved under EB2 and request for EB3 cannot be entertained at this point.
The following are the words from USCIS denial notice.
"The petitioner indicated that it had made an error in marking the petition form and that the petition should be considered one requesting the beneficiary's classification under a different section of law. However, since the petition was filed for second-preference classification and was initially adjudicated on that basis, USCIS will not at this stage consider it for some other classification.
In accordance with a USCIS announcement dated on May 23, 2007, the petitioner may elect to file a new petition on the beneficiary's behalf requesting a different visa classification but supported by the instant labor certification.(A motion making this request would be denied.) If the petitioner elects to persue this option, it should include a cover letter which explains the request, include a copy of this denial notice, and clearly report that the original labor certification is with LIN XXXXXXXXXX housed in AXXXXXXXXX. "
Also mine and my wife's I-485 got denied on the same day. In the denial notice of I-485 USCIS has mentioned that "The regulation does not provide for an appeal to this decision."
We are planning to file a new labor certification by end of this month as the current one is 99% a gone case
As you all know I was trying to save this application to save my wife's EAD.
Please help me with one of the options below.
Regarding my rejected I-140 I have two choices as per USCIS and my lawyer. Either of them should be filed 33 days from first week of march. Doing both of the below options at the same time will result in automatic rejection of both
1) Appealing the decision
Pros: My wife gets a chance to win her EAD back which is a big win for us
Cons: USCIS has indicated in the rejection notice that they are rejecting the I-140 because it does not qualify for EB2. they added that our request for converting it into EB3 cannot be entertained at this moment of time. So chances of winning the appeal is small compared to filing new I-140 as per my lawyer
2) Applying new EB3 I-140
Pros: Chances of getting an approval under this new EB3 I-140 is more compared to appealing the old EB2 application (the old application also includes and the request to convert EB2 into EB3)
Cons: Definite loss of my wife's EAD. Also since the labor is on Aug 2006 they have a common expiration date of Jan 2008. All labors from June 2007 (somewhere around that time) expire 6 months of the approval date and I-140 within that 6 months only will be considered for processing. Since we have passed the Jan 2008 period my lawyer is saying the new I-140 can also get rejected. the only argument we can place is, the processing time taken/length of old I-140 processing and the suggestion given on old I-140 denial notice dated march 1st week.
I am wondering whether we can do an MTR (Motion to re-open on the old application). This option is not mentioned by USCIS or lawyer. I am wondering whether this option will eliminate the appeal/new I-140 application within 33 days previlege
. My answer to my attorney regarding the next course of action depends on your advice(s) very much.
Thanks in advance and I really appreciate who posted replies to my questions earlier.
Enggr:
Labor approved 2006 Aug EB2
I-140 applied 2006 Nov EB2
I-140 RFE 2007 Sep
RFE response 2007 Nov
I-140 denied 2008 Mar
My I-140 got denied after the RFE response. In response to the RFE in September my lawyer responded to the RFE in November and the result came early this month (march 2008).
In the RFE response in last November my lawyer told USCIS that the category was marked wrong as EB2 where the case should be actually under EB3.
USCIS denied the application saying that application cannot be approved under EB2 and request for EB3 cannot be entertained at this point.
The following are the words from USCIS denial notice.
"The petitioner indicated that it had made an error in marking the petition form and that the petition should be considered one requesting the beneficiary's classification under a different section of law. However, since the petition was filed for second-preference classification and was initially adjudicated on that basis, USCIS will not at this stage consider it for some other classification.
In accordance with a USCIS announcement dated on May 23, 2007, the petitioner may elect to file a new petition on the beneficiary's behalf requesting a different visa classification but supported by the instant labor certification.(A motion making this request would be denied.) If the petitioner elects to persue this option, it should include a cover letter which explains the request, include a copy of this denial notice, and clearly report that the original labor certification is with LIN XXXXXXXXXX housed in AXXXXXXXXX. "
Also mine and my wife's I-485 got denied on the same day. In the denial notice of I-485 USCIS has mentioned that "The regulation does not provide for an appeal to this decision."
We are planning to file a new labor certification by end of this month as the current one is 99% a gone case
As you all know I was trying to save this application to save my wife's EAD.
Please help me with one of the options below.
Regarding my rejected I-140 I have two choices as per USCIS and my lawyer. Either of them should be filed 33 days from first week of march. Doing both of the below options at the same time will result in automatic rejection of both
1) Appealing the decision
Pros: My wife gets a chance to win her EAD back which is a big win for us
Cons: USCIS has indicated in the rejection notice that they are rejecting the I-140 because it does not qualify for EB2. they added that our request for converting it into EB3 cannot be entertained at this moment of time. So chances of winning the appeal is small compared to filing new I-140 as per my lawyer
2) Applying new EB3 I-140
Pros: Chances of getting an approval under this new EB3 I-140 is more compared to appealing the old EB2 application (the old application also includes and the request to convert EB2 into EB3)
Cons: Definite loss of my wife's EAD. Also since the labor is on Aug 2006 they have a common expiration date of Jan 2008. All labors from June 2007 (somewhere around that time) expire 6 months of the approval date and I-140 within that 6 months only will be considered for processing. Since we have passed the Jan 2008 period my lawyer is saying the new I-140 can also get rejected. the only argument we can place is, the processing time taken/length of old I-140 processing and the suggestion given on old I-140 denial notice dated march 1st week.
I am wondering whether we can do an MTR (Motion to re-open on the old application). This option is not mentioned by USCIS or lawyer. I am wondering whether this option will eliminate the appeal/new I-140 application within 33 days previlege
. My answer to my attorney regarding the next course of action depends on your advice(s) very much.
Thanks in advance and I really appreciate who posted replies to my questions earlier.
Enggr:
Labor approved 2006 Aug EB2
I-140 applied 2006 Nov EB2
I-140 RFE 2007 Sep
RFE response 2007 Nov
I-140 denied 2008 Mar
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nda050325
07-16 06:22 PM
Sangeetha
This seems to be a new requirement specificed by the consulate.
I havent seen any prespecified format of this letter. But it should contain as much information as possible about your past employment. Some key points would be
Name
Title:
DOJ:
Skillset
Primary duties handled (be as descriptive as possible).
HR Contact Info:
You may want to modify the following template to your skillset:
This letter serves to confirm that Mr. First Name Last name was employed full time in Company name from MM_DD_YYYY to MM_DD_YYYY, in the capacity of OFFICIAL DESIGNATION.
His roles included MENTION ATLEAST 5 BULLET POINTS.
His skill sets included MENTION ALL YOUR SKILLS
He has successfully completed the TRAININGS DONE, and is a Certified GIVE DETAILS.,
Please let us know if you have any questions
Sincerely,
HUMAN RESOURCES
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This seems to be a new requirement specificed by the consulate.
I havent seen any prespecified format of this letter. But it should contain as much information as possible about your past employment. Some key points would be
Name
Title:
DOJ:
Skillset
Primary duties handled (be as descriptive as possible).
HR Contact Info:
You may want to modify the following template to your skillset:
This letter serves to confirm that Mr. First Name Last name was employed full time in Company name from MM_DD_YYYY to MM_DD_YYYY, in the capacity of OFFICIAL DESIGNATION.
His roles included MENTION ATLEAST 5 BULLET POINTS.
His skill sets included MENTION ALL YOUR SKILLS
He has successfully completed the TRAININGS DONE, and is a Certified GIVE DETAILS.,
Please let us know if you have any questions
Sincerely,
HUMAN RESOURCES
===
sammyb
11-19 12:21 PM
https://egov.uscis.gov/cris/jsps/Processtimes.jsp?SeviceCenter=TSC
because of page cache or they posted it today ... just wondering ... anyway thanks for the info ...
because of page cache or they posted it today ... just wondering ... anyway thanks for the info ...
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thepaew
09-24 03:44 PM
Okay - Good Luck! I hope that you get your GC and admit soon. Most probably, I am headed to a non-US program next year as I have waited too long for the elusive GC. :-)
Ciao
thanks for your advice. It is still OK if due to GC screwup, I cannot attend rather than my GC comes through next year, and I fret over why I did not apply. of couse, this is a personal choice. But, this is how I have decided to face the situation. I know of people who have applied 3 times and gone through. Also, deferrals for genuine reasons are allowed by schools, though not all.
Also, MBA process is less stressful than say, applying to MS from India. Being in USA for last few years, we now know better about what is what.
Ciao
thanks for your advice. It is still OK if due to GC screwup, I cannot attend rather than my GC comes through next year, and I fret over why I did not apply. of couse, this is a personal choice. But, this is how I have decided to face the situation. I know of people who have applied 3 times and gone through. Also, deferrals for genuine reasons are allowed by schools, though not all.
Also, MBA process is less stressful than say, applying to MS from India. Being in USA for last few years, we now know better about what is what.
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wandmaker
06-10 01:36 AM
you better consult a very good attorney rather than asking for someone give you expert opinion.:eek:
krishnam70
03-13 05:23 PM
but i asked this question to find the legality of this issue before reporting someone to the USCIS that i know is doing this.I just used I instead of someone in my thread to start the discussion.
Who do i complain to in this case?
Vow quite a turnaround. First you say its you who want to do it and when you get the heat you claim otherwise.
Either way this is pure 'FRAUD' . If you are the person who is doing it USCIS will have ways to track it and it will come back during your Naturalization or at any time when u enter the country. If you are just trying to report this to authorities you can do so at your state DOL or write a letter to USCIS with details if you have it.
- cheers
kris
Who do i complain to in this case?
Vow quite a turnaround. First you say its you who want to do it and when you get the heat you claim otherwise.
Either way this is pure 'FRAUD' . If you are the person who is doing it USCIS will have ways to track it and it will come back during your Naturalization or at any time when u enter the country. If you are just trying to report this to authorities you can do so at your state DOL or write a letter to USCIS with details if you have it.
- cheers
kris
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enver
06-13 04:00 PM
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sameer2730
02-06 05:00 PM
Is H1B stamping subject to the same name checks as in the home country ? Since I have heard people get stuck for long times in these checks, what happens in similar situations when stamping is done in Canada.
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roseball
04-04 03:25 PM
Good find...Something is happening...So GCs for most of us soon without the need for any visa number availability rule? One can only wait N watch...
Nothing to get excited about. As far as I know, USCIS definition of backlog does not include cases waiting for visa number availability...But surely, this will be a great relief for people whose dates have been current for a long time but for some reason USCIS has put their cases under admin processing...
Nothing to get excited about. As far as I know, USCIS definition of backlog does not include cases waiting for visa number availability...But surely, this will be a great relief for people whose dates have been current for a long time but for some reason USCIS has put their cases under admin processing...
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gondalguru
07-08 09:40 PM
BUT: mine is an NIW case so i think she wanted to prove continuous service since 2003 in this job (under served area), she also asked the employer for a payroll printout since january.
Hi Paskal:
I am NIW physician, EB2 India, PD 9/2004. Already completed 3 yrs and 10 months into MUA service. I changed the job in the same MUA 3 months ago.
Do I have to file an amended I-140 or no? I contacted two lawyers on this issue. One says yes and second says no. The second lawyer who is from very reputed law firm -- (shusterman.com) says u only need to respond to RFE for 1 yr and 5 yr of service and not send an updated I-140 especially if you stay in the same MUA / state. I don't know whom to believe? Any suggestions.
I went through NIW regulations published in federal register many times... but in the register it is not clear if you need to file amended I-140 if your first I-140 is self petition and you didn't change the underserved area.
Hi Paskal:
I am NIW physician, EB2 India, PD 9/2004. Already completed 3 yrs and 10 months into MUA service. I changed the job in the same MUA 3 months ago.
Do I have to file an amended I-140 or no? I contacted two lawyers on this issue. One says yes and second says no. The second lawyer who is from very reputed law firm -- (shusterman.com) says u only need to respond to RFE for 1 yr and 5 yr of service and not send an updated I-140 especially if you stay in the same MUA / state. I don't know whom to believe? Any suggestions.
I went through NIW regulations published in federal register many times... but in the register it is not clear if you need to file amended I-140 if your first I-140 is self petition and you didn't change the underserved area.
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maine_gc
04-20 11:44 AM
Thanks for the reply.
We are not in Chicago. Their POE is in Chicago. I may have to go to the local USCIS office and clarify it.
I am also checking with the Attorney.
We are not in Chicago. Their POE is in Chicago. I may have to go to the local USCIS office and clarify it.
I am also checking with the Attorney.
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smuggymba
03-09 02:36 PM
I guess u need to have an approved labor in EB2 to even think about it. You can't port because you dont have an approved EB2 labor.
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which moron gave a red for this post? What is wrong abt this post?
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chanduv23
05-05 08:49 AM
The info I got is I can not apply for 7th year based on the approved LC I have. But I can apply for 7th year based on the LC pending with PBEC. My problem is that LC applied in Marc 2005, is thr some other employer and I do not have any details of this application. I sent 3 emails to PBEC for screenshot which can be used as proof od pending LC and I can then apply for 7th year extension. But unfortunately I did not get any response from PBEC, I know some people get the response within 2-3 hrs from them????
Another possibility is if the pending I-140 is approved by Aug end I can apply for 3 year extension.
So I am totally uninformed what's the future. I talked with the lawyer who filed my earlier labor, she says we can demand for screenshot only in June, then we will get response from PBEC.
Hope this helps.
You need to contact your old employer for your L/C application info. If you cannot do that, try contacting their lawyer.
Another possibility is if the pending I-140 is approved by Aug end I can apply for 3 year extension.
So I am totally uninformed what's the future. I talked with the lawyer who filed my earlier labor, she says we can demand for screenshot only in June, then we will get response from PBEC.
Hope this helps.
You need to contact your old employer for your L/C application info. If you cannot do that, try contacting their lawyer.
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hydboy77
04-27 09:59 PM
a lot of people who applied during July 2007 are getting RFE on 485, I guess this because of pre processing but 99% of these people who are getting RFE are from NSC. I same only one or two people from TSC who got RFE. From this seems like NSC is pre processing but TSC is not.
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07-13 10:34 AM
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raghuram
05-08 04:53 PM
What if you directly send a personal check?
That will take a long time to get cashed. And the Indian bank may charge some additional fees to deposit it there.
That will take a long time to get cashed. And the Indian bank may charge some additional fees to deposit it there.
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seahawks
06-27 02:58 PM
Consult with you Attorney first, as this is a very rare scenario for any one to answer in the forum. Also see if you can get this addresses when you go for the actual FP, Try to carry all the documents, Passport, Driver's License, etc and the copy of the I-485/ I-765 etc where you have the correct names.
Attorney is the best source of information in this scenario. Also call USCIS and request them what needs to be done in this case. Also you can get a InfoPASS appointment and get this corrected.
Reviewed all forms today. Attorney said if 485 form is correct, not to worry, go for FP and show all your proof.. but then I found out 485 form was wrong too, so waiting to hear from him.
Attorney is the best source of information in this scenario. Also call USCIS and request them what needs to be done in this case. Also you can get a InfoPASS appointment and get this corrected.
Reviewed all forms today. Attorney said if 485 form is correct, not to worry, go for FP and show all your proof.. but then I found out 485 form was wrong too, so waiting to hear from him.
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tnite
09-30 02:21 PM
Can you please tell us what the RFE was about....Did you use AC21.
Me and my spouse both have RFE....so i dont know what to expect. And I have used AC21 and changed jobs....I am just hoping it is not related to this.
The RFE was for my I20's and OPT EAD card and Marriage certificate.
Me and my spouse both have RFE....so i dont know what to expect. And I have used AC21 and changed jobs....I am just hoping it is not related to this.
The RFE was for my I20's and OPT EAD card and Marriage certificate.
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sledge_hammer
05-15 07:12 AM
^^^^
eager_immi
02-11 08:47 AM
They don't listen to anyone they are answerable to why would they listen to people with least amount if rights.
The Judicial system is run by Bush and et al..they wont listen to soemone who they are not answerable to.
The Judicial system is run by Bush and et al..they wont listen to soemone who they are not answerable to.
EndlessWait
05-01 12:09 PM
If old I-140 has not been revoked, you are entitled to the old PD.
8 CFR 204.5
(e) Retention of section 203(b)(1) , (2) , or (3) priority date. -- A petition approved on behalf of an alien under sections 203(b)(1), (2), or (3) of the Act accords the alien the priority date of the approved petition for any subsequently filed petition for any classification under sections 203(b)(1), (2), or (3) of the Act for which the alien may qualify. In the event that the alien is the beneficiary of multiple petitions under sections 203(b)(1), (2), or (3) of the Act, the alien shall be entitled to the earliest priority date. A petition revoked under sections 204(e) or 205 of the Act will not confer a priority date, nor will any priority date be established as a result of a denied petition. A priority date is not transferable to another alien.
it it was not fraudulent.. that's what my lawyer told me
8 CFR 204.5
(e) Retention of section 203(b)(1) , (2) , or (3) priority date. -- A petition approved on behalf of an alien under sections 203(b)(1), (2), or (3) of the Act accords the alien the priority date of the approved petition for any subsequently filed petition for any classification under sections 203(b)(1), (2), or (3) of the Act for which the alien may qualify. In the event that the alien is the beneficiary of multiple petitions under sections 203(b)(1), (2), or (3) of the Act, the alien shall be entitled to the earliest priority date. A petition revoked under sections 204(e) or 205 of the Act will not confer a priority date, nor will any priority date be established as a result of a denied petition. A priority date is not transferable to another alien.
it it was not fraudulent.. that's what my lawyer told me
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